{"id":1416,"date":"2009-11-30T13:01:25","date_gmt":"2009-11-30T03:01:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nsrd.wordpress.com\/?p=1416"},"modified":"2009-11-30T13:01:25","modified_gmt":"2009-11-30T03:01:25","slug":"emc-data-domain-vtls-and-disk-backup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/2009\/11\/30\/emc-data-domain-vtls-and-disk-backup\/","title":{"rendered":"EMC, Data Domain, VTLs and Disk Backup"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With their recent acquisition of Data Domain, some people at EMC have become table thumping experts overnight on why you it&#8217;s absolutely imperative that you backup to Data Domain boxes as disk backup over NAS, rather than a fibre-channel connected VTL.<\/p>\n<p>Their argument seems to come from the numbers \u2013 the wrong numbers.<\/p>\n<p>The numbers constantly quoted are number of sales of disk backup Data Domain vs VTL Data Domain. That is, some EMC and Data Domain reps will confidently assert that by the numbers, a significantly higher percentage of Data Domain for Disk Backup has been sold than Data Domain with VTL. That&#8217;s like saying that Windows is superior to Mac OS X because it sells more. Or to perhaps pick a little less controversial topic, it&#8217;s like saying that DDS is better than LTO because there&#8217;s been more DDS drives and tapes sold than there&#8217;s ever been LTO drives and tapes.<\/p>\n<p>I.e., an argument by those numbers doesn&#8217;t wash. It rarely has, it rarely will, and nor should it. (Otherwise we&#8217;d all be afraid of sailing too far from shore because that&#8217;s how it had always been done before&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s look at the reality of how disk backup currently stacks up in NetWorker. And let&#8217;s preface this by saying that if backup products actually started using disk backup <em>properly<\/em> tomorrow, I would be the first to shout &#8220;Don&#8217;t let the door hit your butt on the way out&#8221; to every VTL on the planet. As a concept, I wish VTLs didn&#8217;t have to exist, but in the practical real world, I recognise their need and their current ascendency over ADV_FILE. I have, almost literally at times, been dragged kicking and screaming to that conclusion.<\/p>\n<p>Disk Backup, using ADV_FILE type devices in NetWorker:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Can&#8217;t move a saveset from a full disk backup unit to a non-full one; you have to clear the space first.<\/li>\n<li>Can&#8217;t simultaneously clone from, stage from, backup to and recover from a disk backup unit. No, you can&#8217;t do that with tape either, but when disk backup units are typically in the order of several terabytes, and virtual tapes are in the order of maybe 50-200 GB, that&#8217;s a heck of a lot less contention time for any one backup.<\/li>\n<li>Use tape\/tape drive selection algorithms for deciding which disk backup unit gets used in which order, resulting in worst case capacity usage scenarios in almost all instances.<\/li>\n<li>Can&#8217;t accept a saveset bigger than the disk backup unit. (It&#8217;s like, &#8220;Hello, AMANDA, I borrowed some ideas from you!&#8221;)<\/li>\n<li>Can&#8217;t be part-replicated between sites. If you&#8217;ve got two VTLs and you really need to do back-end replication, you can replicate individual pieces of media between sites \u2013 again, significantly smaller than entire disk backup units. When you define disk backup units in NetWorker, that&#8217;s the &#8220;smallest&#8221; media you get.<\/li>\n<li>Are traditionally space wasteful. NetWorker&#8217;s limited staging routines encourages clumps of disk backup space by destination pool \u2013 e.g., &#8220;here&#8217;s my daily disk backup units, I use them 30 days out of 31, and those over there that occupy the same amount of space (practically) are my monthly disk backup units, I use them 1 day out of 31. The rest of the time they sit idle.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Have poor staging options (I&#8217;ll do another post this week on one way to improve on this).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If you get a table thumping sales person trying to tell you that you should buy Data Domain for Disk Backup for NetWorker, I&#8217;d suggest thumping the table back \u2013 you want the VTL option instead, and you want EMC to fix ADV_FILE.<\/p>\n<p>Honestly EMC, I&#8217;ll lead the charge once ADV_FILE is fixed. I&#8217;ll champion it until I&#8217;m blue in the face, then suck from an oxygen tank and keep going \u2013 like I used to, before the inadequacies got too much. Until then though, I&#8217;ll keep skewering that argument of superiority by sales numbers.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With their recent acquisition of Data Domain, some people at EMC have become table thumping experts overnight on why you&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3,16],"tags":[102,275,333,1259,617,850,1101],"class_list":["post-1416","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-architecture","category-networker","tag-adv_file","tag-data-domain","tag-disk-backup","tag-emc","tag-nas","tag-san","tag-vtl"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pKpIN-mQ","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1416","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1416"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1416\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1416"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1416"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nsrd.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1416"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}